New rule for posting videos

Here's the rule I want:

In order for someone to post a video, they must have 5 posts throughout the forum. These must be quality posts also. Accepted posts would include posts on any of the discussion threads or posting a comment to someone elses video.

For every video you want to post, you MUST have 5 posts somewhere else in the forum. The actual video post you make does NOT count toward your next 5 posts for your next video.

The same setup for non-sponsored, sponsored & vip members will be used.

Im tired of everyone dumping their videos and leaving.

I disagree because the whole point of this site is getting them known

3MZ wrote:I disagree because the whole point of this site is getting them known

False. The point of this site is to communicate with other gamers as well as show off your videos.

Fr0z3nD3m1s3 wrote:

3MZ wrote:I disagree because the whole point of this site is getting them known

False. The point of this site is to communicate with other gamers as well as show off your videos.

Umm, no when CB started this is was to get people known, now we changed it :L

3MZ wrote:

Fr0z3nD3m1s3 wrote:

3MZ wrote:I disagree because the whole point of this site is getting them known

False. The point of this site is to communicate with other gamers as well as show off your videos.

Umm, no when CB started this is was to get people known, now we changed it :L

No one will ever get known if all the users just come here, dump their video and run. If no one else is watching your videos, then nothing is achieved at all. Therefor, if we institute a rule that forces users to do some sort of interaction before they can post their videos, theres a better chance that the intended outcome of the site will be achieved.

Sorry i know you two are arguing but just saying Some videos ppl put up here to share, Some of these guides are useful to others, so limiting ppl sharing videos limits the ability to help others.

PBnJs1987 wrote:Sorry i know you two are arguing but just saying Some videos ppl put up here to share, Some of these guides are useful to others, so limiting ppl sharing videos limits the ability to help others.

Umm... No.

PBnJs1987 wrote:Sorry i know you two are arguing but just saying Some videos ppl put up here to share, Some of these guides are useful to others, so limiting ppl sharing videos limits the ability to help others.

All the videos people put on here they want to share. Im not saying that they cant. What Im saying is that I want them to engage with the other members of the site. If you engage with other members, they are more than likely to watch your videos. Do you think I watch all the videos on this site? Hell no. But I do watch the videos of the people that I regularly engage with on here.

thejoshb wrote:

PBnJs1987 wrote:Sorry i know you two are arguing but just saying Some videos ppl put up here to share, Some of these guides are useful to others, so limiting ppl sharing videos limits the ability to help others.

All the videos people put on here they want to share. Im not saying that they cant. What Im saying is that I want them to engage with the other members of the site. If you engage with other members, they are more than likely to watch your videos. Do you think I watch all the videos on this site? Hell no. But I do watch the videos of the people that I regularly engage with on here.

I agree with thejoshb, if anyone is going to get their videos noticed and liked, they have to get into the community. When they do that, they make friends. Those friends watch the videos. After they watch the videos, they recommend the videos to their friends, and so on and so forth. If they don't make friends and they just drop and run, whos going to want to watch their videos. NO ONE. Thats what thejoshb is trying to say.

I agree with trying to stop ppl from posting videos to get subs and leaving. But Like yesterday i saw a video "one battlefield 3" I posted about it bc I wanted ppl to see this work of art, It is a good video and I felt like others could enjoy it. Also in guides, Someone might ask me how to make something in minecraft, it is nice to look on youtube find a video that already has it (Why reinvent the wheel) post it. I'm not trying to advertise but just to help fellow members. I dont have an issue with joining the community, i dont see it as being very hard either, but just throwing out there from other ppl perspectives incase they can't join to well.

PBnJs1987 wrote:I agree with trying to stop ppl from posting videos to get subs and leaving. But Like yesterday i saw a video "one battlefield 3" I posted about it bc I wanted ppl to see this work of art, It is a good video and I felt like others could enjoy it. Also in guides, Someone might ask me how to make something in minecraft, it is nice to look on youtube find a video that already has it (Why reinvent the wheel) post it. I'm not trying to advertise but just to help fellow members. I dont have an issue with joining the community, i dont see it as being very hard either, but just throwing out there from other ppl perspectives incase they can't join to well.

Well if you are actually willing to go out and look for someone's elses video to anser someone's question on here, then you would already meet the posting quota since you are clearly engaged in the site and discussions. No one that only posts in the video sections would put forth the effort to do so, since they dont even bother reading the rules, let alone someone elses threads

PBnJs1987 wrote:I dont have an issue with joining the community, i dont see it as being very hard either

That's the problem. I get PMs on YouTube asking how to post stuff in these forums >_>

I say we should do xxSTARGATExx's idea for Member of the Month to fix this, and the member of the month would get 3 of their videos to GSF's YouTube, which is also in need of some more videos IMO.

Fr0z3nD3m1s3 wrote:

PBnJs1987 wrote:I dont have an issue with joining the community, i dont see it as being very hard either

That's the problem. I get PMs on YouTube asking how to post stuff in these forums >_>

I say we should do xxSTARGATExx's idea for Member of the Month to fix this, and the member of the month would get 3 of their videos to GSF's YouTube, which is also in need of some more videos IMO.

Im still waiting for the username and password so we can start putting videos on there.

sounds good to me. hopefully things will get better in the community.

all my videos that i post helps people with a game or helps them think about buying a game. so if this rule does go i will be limited to helping others and thats not fair to me or to anyone else that likes my content. i apperciate being a part of this forums because i got sponsored but its not really helping me out because like some of you guys said "people post their videos and run to another Forum and so forth" i agree with that part. but to limit people from posting and sharing i have to disagree with that

In conclusion, new rule should be you have to have 10 posts to start posting videos or external links at all. End of argument.

I'm a member of other forums where people post videos and if you introduce a rule where someone needs to have x number of posts before they are allowed post a video then all that happens is they spam messages until they reach the requirement and then just post their video.

If any restriction was put in place it should probably be post count plus time registered to the forum e.g. 2 weeks or something

Fr0z3nD3m1s3 wrote:In conclusion, new rule should be you have to have 10 posts to start posting videos or external links at all. End of argument.

I've seen that on other websites it causes people known as shit posters who will post anything just to reach the minimum requirement

TheGamingDragon18 wrote:all my videos that i post helps people with a game or helps them think about buying a game. so if this rule does go i will be limited to helping others and thats not fair to me or to anyone else that likes my content. i apperciate being a part of this forums because i got sponsored but its not really helping me out because like some of you guys said "people post their videos and run to another Forum and so forth" i agree with that part. but to limit people from posting and sharing i have to disagree with that

Yes, but not every video made needs to be posted on this forum, that's the problem. People post crappy videos on here, trying to get sponsored? I mean feedback is nice when that's what you're going for, and by the looks of it, that's what most people are here for, but seriously "you don't have to post every video you make".

Some videos are walkthroughs, which have there place (playlists, which is a single post). And other videos may be free advertising for a game, showing all the features, this is called a review. You don't need to post each individual walkthrough. Complete your project, create a playlist, then post it here.

Also if people like your content, they'll more than likely subscribe to your channel, hence nearly eliminating all purpose of this forum.

I don't mean to be harsh, but I'm just saying it like it is. There are people on here that need to participate, especially when they are posting the same video 6x in one day (ahem... Renzy). The purpose of any forum is to create an active community. Without which, one cannot survive. Period.

To motivate people to move in that direction many forums create post limits for certain criteria, and in some locations it's not necessary; but for a site like this, with limited number of paying/viewership sponsors, something needs to be done.

I haven't been here long, but participation is constantly a problem here. Click the button on the [View posts since last visit] and over 90% will have 0 replies.

So to be complete, what would be the alternative? Just hope that people start doing what's necessary? I'm being serious, what would be another option, other than creating some type of posting limitation, or criteria, to get people to be more active? Because I don't play that, "well it's not a good idea, but I don't have any solution either, so just leave it the way it is" card. When there is a problem, obviously we should remedy it. And you agreed, that there is a problem.

P.S. that question goes to all the people against posting limits.

No1leftB3HIND wrote:

TheGamingDragon18 wrote:all my videos that i post helps people with a game or helps them think about buying a game. so if this rule does go i will be limited to helping others and thats not fair to me or to anyone else that likes my content. i apperciate being a part of this forums because i got sponsored but its not really helping me out because like some of you guys said "people post their videos and run to another Forum and so forth" i agree with that part. but to limit people from posting and sharing i have to disagree with that

Yes, but not every video made needs to be posted on this forum, that's the problem. People post crappy videos on here, trying to get sponsored? I mean feedback is nice when that's what you're going for, and by the looks of it, that's what most people are here for, but seriously "you don't have to post every video you make".

Some videos are walkthroughs, which have there place (playlists, which is a single post). And other videos may be free advertising for a game, showing all the features, this is called a review. You don't need to post each individual walkthrough. Complete your project, create a playlist, then post it here.

Also if people like your content, they'll more than likely subscribe to your channel, hence nearly eliminating all purpose of this forum.

I don't mean to be harsh, but I'm just saying it like it is. There are people on here that need to participate, especially when they are posting the same video 6x in one day (ahem... Renzy). The purpose of any forum is to create an active community. Without which, one cannot survive. Period.

To motivate people to move in that direction many forums create post limits for certain criteria, and in some locations it's not necessary; but for a site like this, with limited number of paying/viewership sponsors, something needs to be done.

I haven't been here long, but participation is constantly a problem here. Click the button on the [View posts since last visit] and over 90% will have 0 replies.

So to be complete, what would be the alternative? Just hope that people start doing what's necessary? I'm being serious, what would be another option, other than creating some type of posting limitation, or criteria, to get people to be more active? Because I don't play that, "well it's not a good idea, but I don't have any solution either, so just leave it the way it is" card. When there is a problem, obviously we should remedy it. And you agreed, that there is a problem.

P.S. that question goes to all the people against posting limits.

Well i dont really post everyone video of a playthrough. i post the first video and then the playlist. and since im a sponsored player i can post them in two different places. i can only post my reviews in the sponsor video sections since the Submit my video is Gaming only. the only reason i posted more of Dragon's Dogma is because it passed the 100 part mark so i just posted parts 25, 50, 75 and 100

Ok then, still missing the point, no need to defend yourself like that.

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But if I must make a point, out of the 62 posts you've created or responded to since Jul 1st, you've only replied to 3 other people's threads. Leaving 59 of them to be video posts, regardless of when or how, or in what order you posted them, you still posted multiple sections of a single playlist, still not really a big deal.

However if we disregard the double posts, I'll excuse 11 of those 59 posts as single posts leaving 48/2 = 24. The point being you've posted ~35 videos in the last month and only replied to 3 other threads, none of which were other people's videos. ::deep breath, exhale::

You've been a top poster for the last few weeks yet you've hardly participated. I hate to make that example, because there are plenty of other people like that on this forum who are worse than this.

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But finally, moving AWAY from personal stuff and back to the topic. Do you have any ideas to offer that might help alleviate this problem? Because that's what I'm really interested in. Not your personal behavior, cause I do like your vids, and I don't want to make this... subject, about that.

gabe2k12 wrote:I've seen that on other websites it causes people known as shit posters who will post anything just to reach the minimum requirement

You're clearly unaware of how a forum works. The people who are referred to as "shit posters" will be banned. I, for one, think it's a good idea and everyone who is against this idea of a certain amount of posts clearly are ones who dump videos and run. That's only my logic, but logic doesn't work here.

Hey Guys! I remebered that i was on youtube, and someone of this forum comes to bring me here. He said me that it would be a great opportunity to promote my work or my channel. In fact, when you post a video, you can see that nobody interact.
So this rule seems to be a great idea but also a nice dream. Everybody is animate by selfish motives, i'm the first of this guys...I'll try to adjust this point!
A last point, how to interact with the others when you don't have enough points, the admin sent me lot of pm, and i want to answer him but i can't.


Sorry for my bad english, i'm French

Peace

why don't you just ban me? I despise FPS and CoD.

look man no one wants to ban you, don't get all defensive. All the games posted on here aren't CoD or FPS, and that's really no excuse. I bet if we'd had a 5posts per video post criteria you'd have participated more. It's an incentive, everyone is taking this idea and acting like it's the devil. While Us Mods really just want to figure out a way to get the rest of the lazy shits to join the community instead of doing this video drive-by crap. Banning people left and right is not the answer.

Mild-restrictions or rewards are probably the route to take. Giving out little awards for your profile would seem like the best route to me. I can think of tons of little awards this site could give out to it's users as a process of inspiring this community to be more (Vid of the Month, Most active, Most involved, GOld Topic starter, etc). I'd really like to hear what CB has to say about it, although he may just be happy with the current state it's in.

(sorry, I accidently edited you thread, I posted my post as an edit, I was doing this right after I woke up, sincere apologies)